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Hungary PM's odd claim: Islam was 'never part of Europe'
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2015-10-17 15:15:11 UTC
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Is Europe a democratic continent with full respect for human rights and freedoms including full respect for freedom of and right for religion as they claim to be when it comes to claim and brag how cilvilized it is???

If Europe is a democratic continent with full respect for human rights and freedoms including full respect for freedom of and right for religion, then no idiot loke Hungary PM's should be able to say: Islam was 'never part of Europe'. Because religion (and race, gender, language, etc) is irrelavant now in any real democracy with full respect for human rights and freedoms including full respect for freedom of and right for religion.

Europe, or anybody else, cannot claim to be democracy and violate its basic principles at the same time.

Does any European understand that??

And remember, a Moslem is not a terrorist, a terrorist is not a Moslem. Same with all Christians, Judaist, Hindus, etc.

By talking about "Islam was 'never part of Europe'", you are showing how ignorant and racist you are.

With the lack of compassion, no full respect for human rights and freedoms including no respect for freedom of and right for religion, you are not even civilized.

You are nothing but barbaric savages.


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http://www.worldbulletin.net/headlines/165348/hungary-pms-odd-claim-islam-was-never-part-of-europe

16 October 2015

Hungary PM's odd claim: Islam was 'never part of Europe'

Controversial Hungarian PM continues to spread anti-Islam sentiment amid refugee influx


World Bulletin / News Desk

Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban defended his hardline stance against refugees, the vast majority of whom are Muslim, saying in an interview published Friday that Islam "has never been part of Europe".

Speaking to Germany's Focus news weekly about the record refugee influx, he said "the language of the European elite is ideological and dogmatic".

"Islam has never been part of Europe, it came to us," Orban told Focus in an interview to be published in full Saturday.

He conceded that Germany's Turkish refugees, who arrived in their tens of thousands from the 1960s for work, now "belong to German history and therefore Europe's too".

"But spiritually, Islam was never part of Europe. It's the rulebook of another world," said Orban.

He also hit out at France and Germany for refusing to countenance "any doubts" over a multicultural society.

"We in Hungary decide what we want or don't want. We don't want that," he said.

Almost 600,000 people have arrived in Europe so far this year, with many of them heading for Germany and Sweden.

Orban asserted that most asylum seekers arriving in Europe are actually economic migrants.

"Not everyone is entitled to a life in Germany or a life in Hungary. That's only for those who have worked for it," he said.

In the face of a historic surge in refugee arrivals, Hungary in September sealed its border with Serbia. On Thursday, it announced it had also completed a fence along the Croatian border.

Hungary's use of fences and its treatment of refugees -- including serious clashes on September 16 between police and refugees -- has been sharply criticised, including by UN chief Ban Ki-moon.
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2015-10-18 16:04:57 UTC
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It is wrong to say "Islam was never part of Europe." On the contrary, Islam was an essential part of Europe.

Islam was born in the Middle East just like Christianity and Judaism were. Islam dominated Iberian peninsula (today's Spain and Portugal) for nearly 800 years from 711 AD until 1492. Christianity and Judaism faired much better in Moslem dominated Iberian peninsula than Moslems and Judaists in Christian dominated Europe including Iberia. After all Europeans were bloody, brutal Romans and their opponents Romans called "Barbarians".

Moslem advances in mathematics, astronomy, art, and agriculture helped propel Europe out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance.

Christianity and Judaism were not born in Europe either as everybody knows. Christianity came to and dominated Europe by the 5th century AD. Initially Europe rejected it and persecuted Christians and Judaists in most brutal ways.

Therefore Christianity too was never part of Europe until 5th century AD. Thanks to Moslem advances in mathematics, astronomy, art, and agriculture helped propel Europe out of the Dark Ages and into the Renaissance.
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