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The Two Americas : Is It Time For A Division?
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Tracey12
2013-01-26 15:51:24 UTC
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1. Free speech
The left no more wants to ban free speech than the right does.
2. Freedom of religion
The left no more wants to ban freedom of religion than the right does.
3. Gun ownership
That one is indeed more a leftish thing than a right wing thing
4. Property Rights
5. Parental Righ
Excessively vague
The fact of the matter is that if you aren't married, you shouldn't be
allowed to have sex.    It's offensive to the sanctity of marriage, so
is divorce.
Anyone who confesses or brags about having sex before marriage belongs
in prision.
There's still plenty of real estate in this country for new
prisons.    We can pay for them with more tax cuts.
Why waste time posting this when you do not believe any portion of it?
Bobbie Sellers
2013-01-26 17:24:49 UTC
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On 01/26/2013 07:51 AM, Tracey12 wrote:

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Post by Tracey12
Why waste time posting this when you do not believe any portion of it?
Look at the X-posting list.
talk.politics.crypto
talk.politics.libertarian
alt.religion.christian.last-days
talk.politics.european-union
talk.politics.drugs

Dead give-away for a troll.

bliss
David Johnston
2013-02-03 23:43:01 UTC
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1. Free speech
The left no more wants to ban free speech than the right does.
2. Freedom of religion
The left no more wants to ban freedom of religion than the right does.
3. Gun ownership
That one is indeed more a leftish thing than a right wing thing
4. Property Rights
5. Parental Righ
Excessively vague
The fact of the matter is that if you aren't married, you shouldn't be
allowed to have sex. It's offensive to the sanctity of marriage, so
is divorce.
Case in point. The whole conservative=individual liberty,
liberal=regulation dichotomy is bs unless you pick and choose who your
conservatives are to exclude what are actually traditional
conservatives. Libertarian isn't really the same thing as conservative.
David Friedman
2013-02-05 21:08:32 UTC
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Post by David Johnston
Case in point. The whole conservative=individual liberty,
liberal=regulation dichotomy is bs unless you pick and choose who your
conservatives are to exclude what are actually traditional
conservatives. Libertarian isn't really the same thing as conservative.
It also depends on what liberties you are concerned with and which
leftists--some are very good on freedom of speech type issues, some
aren't.
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jigo
2013-02-08 22:20:25 UTC
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Post by David Friedman
Post by David Johnston
Case in point. The whole conservative=individual liberty,
liberal=regulation dichotomy is bs unless you pick and choose who your
conservatives are to exclude what are actually traditional
conservatives. Libertarian isn't really the same thing as conservative.
Well yeah, that should be obvious. I don't know if liberal types
sometimes make that accusation as an attempt to discredit
libertarianism or if they're just plain ignorant.
Post by David Friedman
It also depends on what liberties you are concerned with and which
leftists--some are very good on freedom of speech type issues, some
aren't.
Yes, freedom of speech used to be the one right liberals always
supported, but in recent years many have favored serious limitations
based on the "hate speech" excuse and some others. There was that
one guy arrested and convicted for driving his truck with a noose on
it, and a fair number of newspapers, especially college papers,
censor anything that might be construed as offending homosexuals or
other minority groups.

I've always said that people support the rights that are important
to them but don't care much if it's a right (like gun rights) that's
affects something they're not interested in.

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