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France admits ‘brutal’ occupation in Algeria
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rick murphy
2012-12-21 00:02:32 UTC
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Europe went through a period of Renaissance and Reforms during the
17th and 18th centuries and they consider themselves enlightened and
superior to others. Look what those "enlightened and superior"
Europeans did to other human beings all over the world. The
Renaissance and Reforms Europe went through taught them only how to
build more deadly killing machines and develop better methods and
tactics to invade, massacre and exploit "unenlightened" fellow human
beings.

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France admits ‘brutal’ occupation in Algeria

ALGIERS

Picture: French President Hollande (C) drinks a beverage as his
Algerian counterpart Bouteflika (R) is given dattes as they arrive at
Zeralda’s state residence. Hollande’s visit came as Algeria celebrates
50 years of independence from France.


French President Hollande recognizes the ‘suffering’ inflicted on the
Algerian people during colonial rule but he does not give any official
apology

French President François Hollande acknowledged the “unjust” and
“brutal” nature of France’s occupation of Algeria for 132 years, but
stopped short yesterday of apologizing for the past as many Algerians
have demanded.

“History, even when it is tragic, even when it is painful for our two
countries, must be told. Over 132 years, Algeria was subjected to a
profoundly unjust and brutal system,” Hollande told the Algerian
Parliament on the second and final day of a landmark visit to the
North African country, to applause from MPs. “This system has a name:
it is colonialism and I recognize the suffering that colonialism
inflicted on the Algerian people.”

‘France forgets its universal values’

Hollande notably listed the sites of three massacres, including one at
Setif where seven years ago Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika
compared French methods to those used by Nazi Germany and asked France
to make a “gesture ... to erase this black stain.”

“On May 8, 1945, when the world triumphed over brutality, France
forgot its universal values,” Hollande said. The truth “must also be
spoken about the circumstances in which Algeria was delivered from the
colonial system, in this war whose name was not mentioned in France
for a long time, the Algerian war” of independence, he added.

“We have a duty to speak the truth about the violence, injustices,
massacres and torture... Establishing the truth is an obligation that
ties Algerians and French. That’s why it is necessary that historians
have access to the archives.”

He specifically recognized the “massacres” by the French during the
seven-year war that led to Algerian independence in 1962. The
admission was a profound departure from Hollande’s predecessors who,
if not defending France’s tormented past with Algeria, remained
silent.

Large numbers of Algerians, and some political parties, have been
seeking an apology from France for inequalities suffered by the
population under colonial rule and for brutality during the war.
However, Hollande said after arriving in Algeria on Dec. 19 that he
had not come to say sorry for the crimes committed during the colonial
period. But he stressed the importance of recognizing what happened as
a way of beginning a new era in relations between the two countries,
bound together by human, economic and cultural ties.

On arrival, Hollande was received with full honors by Bouteflika and
said he wanted relations between their countries to be a “strategic
partnership between equals.”

Hollande and Bouteflika agreed to relaunch economic, strategic and
cultural relations between the two countries on a new basis among
equals. A new start must “be supported by a base,” Hollande said, and
“this base is truth.” “Nothing is built in secretiveness, forgetting,
denial,” he said. Hollande also promised yesterday to “better
accommodate” Algerians seeking to move to France and to streamline the
visa process.
December/21/2012
j***@gmail.com
2013-01-18 07:41:49 UTC
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About 25 years ago I was doing research in the library in preparation for a term paper. I came across a hard covered book about Algeria. It was very clear, because they were being forced to leave the country, France marched 1 million Algerians into the mountains, had them dig trenched and then machine gunned then all.
Post by rick murphy
Europe went through a period of Renaissance and Reforms during the
17th and 18th centuries and they consider themselves enlightened and
superior to others. Look what those "enlightened and superior"
Europeans did to other human beings all over the world. The
Renaissance and Reforms Europe went through taught them only how to
build more deadly killing machines and develop better methods and
tactics to invade, massacre and exploit "unenlightened" fellow human
beings.
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France admits ‘brutal’ occupation in Algeria
ALGIERS
Picture: French President Hollande (C) drinks a beverage as his
Algerian counterpart Bouteflika (R) is given dattes as they arrive at
Zeralda’s state residence. Hollande’s visit came as Algeria celebrates
50 years of independence from France.
French President Hollande recognizes the ‘suffering’ inflicted on the
Algerian people during colonial rule but he does not give any official
apology
French President François Hollande acknowledged the “unjust” and
“brutal” nature of France’s occupation of Algeria for 132 years, but
stopped short yesterday of apologizing for the past as many Algerians
have demanded.
“History, even when it is tragic, even when it is painful for our two
countries, must be told. Over 132 years, Algeria was subjected to a
profoundly unjust and brutal system,” Hollande told the Algerian
Parliament on the second and final day of a landmark visit to the
it is colonialism and I recognize the suffering that colonialism
inflicted on the Algerian people.”
‘France forgets its universal values’
Hollande notably listed the sites of three massacres, including one at
Setif where seven years ago Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika
compared French methods to those used by Nazi Germany and asked France
to make a “gesture ... to erase this black stain.”
“On May 8, 1945, when the world triumphed over brutality, France
forgot its universal values,” Hollande said. The truth “must also be
spoken about the circumstances in which Algeria was delivered from the
colonial system, in this war whose name was not mentioned in France
for a long time, the Algerian war” of independence, he added.
“We have a duty to speak the truth about the violence, injustices,
massacres and torture... Establishing the truth is an obligation that
ties Algerians and French. That’s why it is necessary that historians
have access to the archives.”
He specifically recognized the “massacres” by the French during the
seven-year war that led to Algerian independence in 1962. The
admission was a profound departure from Hollande’s predecessors who,
if not defending France’s tormented past with Algeria, remained
silent.
Large numbers of Algerians, and some political parties, have been
seeking an apology from France for inequalities suffered by the
population under colonial rule and for brutality during the war.
However, Hollande said after arriving in Algeria on Dec. 19 that he
had not come to say sorry for the crimes committed during the colonial
period. But he stressed the importance of recognizing what happened as
a way of beginning a new era in relations between the two countries,
bound together by human, economic and cultural ties.
On arrival, Hollande was received with full honors by Bouteflika and
said he wanted relations between their countries to be a “strategic
partnership between equals.”
Hollande and Bouteflika agreed to relaunch economic, strategic and
cultural relations between the two countries on a new basis among
equals. A new start must “be supported by a base,” Hollande said, and
“this base is truth.” “Nothing is built in secretiveness, forgetting,
denial,” he said. Hollande also promised yesterday to “better
accommodate” Algerians seeking to move to France and to streamline the
visa process.
December/21/2012
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